One of the things that, that came to me and I think some of the senior citizens in the room when people came up with lots and lots of wonderful [00:25:00] ideas, is that you know we’ve heard a lot of these ideas before. There’d been a number of programs that haven’t been done before and I don’t want to be cynical or you know “been there, done that” that’s the importance, but, in fact it may be useful to learn from the programs that have been done before would sound like the wonderful new ideas today. And so what lessons were learned, you know, why wasn’t that a slam dunk?